The United States federal law was the template for the Arizona law that everyone is protesting right now. The law, in place for many years has simply not been enforced. What I find interesting is the probable cause issue. Based on the interpretation of this law, I can see illegal immigrants having their arrests reversed because they are illegal immigrants but the police officer didn't do a good enough job establishing probable cause.
If they are here illegally, there shouldn't need to be probable cause. If they are here legally than it shouldn't matter as long as there is no profiling. If the national ID card go through then there will be no reason to need probable cause anyway because if you don't have a national ID, then you obviously are here illegally.
I love the left wing of this country... they don't even realize that the thing they are most against will be made easier and more effective by the things that they want the most.
I LOVE IT...
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The politicians feel a sense of accomplishment by making new laws. Who cares the laws are the same as ones that have been on the books. I feel the laws in place should be enforced. As far as having papers, why shouldn't everyone have papers, oh yeah, you already have them. It's called a birth certificate and you must present it to get a drivers license.
ReplyDeleteOfficer to person of question (i.e. traffic stop), "may I see your drivers license?" Person of question, "Si senor, no problema." Officer knows upon inspecting DL that this guy is legit, he showed his papers at the DMV so he must be legal so there is no probable cause to investigate this guys legitimacy further. And the guy wasn't carrying not did he show papers at that time. Once, when he got his license did he show them because it is required to get a license.
But the fact is you DON'T NEED to have a drivers licience. I have friends in Boston and New York that are 40 + and have never had a licience. They don't need them with the public transport system. My grandmother never had any type of picture ID until she got her passport at age 70. This is the firat step toward more government interference, not less. And we have a border to the north, that while less prominient, but in the north east, is just as big an issue.
ReplyDeleteDo they have state issued ID? Social Security number? Birth Certificate? These are all papers. This runs over into your post from the other blog. I believe you must have some form of ID to get a job, SSN for example, and then it points back to enforcement upon employers. However, the subject of this blog is concerning Arizona, and I say good job. If the fine people of New York want to offer a haven for illegals, fine, if the fine people of Arizona don't, fine too. By Arizona passing this law, they are saying no to government control because they are not leaning on the Feds for the control. If folks don't like it then they have the Freedom in this country to go on over to some other state.
ReplyDeleteNice ! According to your philosophy in the last couple of sentances of you post though, If you don't like the way the federal government is doing things, you can always move to Canada.
ReplyDeletePoint is not that they would need to have those papers, but that they would be pulled over based on nothing other than what they looked like, and if they did not have the accepted types of identification ON THEIR PERSON, they would be subject to arrest. Doesn't matter if they were born in the US for 5 generations or were illegals. They could be walking to the mail box and get arrested, at the beach, in the mall, where ever and based solely on their skin tone, questioned and possibly arrested.
I truely believe that illegal immigration NEEDS to be stopped, but I also believe that this is very much the wrong way to go about doing it
What are your thoughts of CHILD MOLESTATION and the other 13 felony sex counts you face? ?
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